1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
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1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
So, basicly this is just a copy/paste from kp61.net, as retyping everything would be useless.
Back then i was looking for a project car. I had a slammed GS300 as a daily, and wanted something a bit smaller and lighter to have a little fun with.
Then this starlet came up for sale. This is one of the pics from the previous owner.
So i decided to go check it out, condition was said to be quite rusty.
When i arrived in the barn the car was located, it had a lot of rust, but nothing i couldnt handle, or so i thought. I didnt really take a good look at the underside, cause there wasnt any space to do so. The rear windows where out, the rearfenders cut up, B-pillars had big gaping holes in them. But somehow i liked the car, so we agreed upon a price, and i picked it up a week later. Also, seeing a lot of the projects on this forum, and the bad condition the cars started in, gave me a lot of confidence that i could fix the car.
I decided to drive the car home, as it was only 40km's or so. I had to be a bit carefull on the brakes, as they where quite rusted from standing still. I filled her up with some gas, and off i went. The car didnt actually drive that bad, bar the leaking masterbrake cilinder :-?. About 30km's in i had a flat reartire on the highway, pulled over, called roadassistance, and had the tire replaced at a local tireshop, as i had no spare .
Eventually i got the car to the garage i was working at the time. My employers had allowed me to work on the car during the weekends.
Locked the place up, and started on it about 2 weeks later.
So i began looking over the car, looking at what had been done, and what had to be done. It wasnt long till i figured out that everything that was done to it, was done quite poorly. So i decided to just cut everything out, and redo those parts. On with the pics! Note that i wont post all the pics, cause there are simply too many :p.
So, that was i started with. I grinded away some filler around the fuelcap.
As you can see, not pretty.
So, i started cutting away some of the rot around the rearend.
And then redoing the bit around the fuelcap.
In the meantime, i'd already ordered and received several parts. I bought some fenderflares and a trd replica wing. I then started on repairing the right rear arch. The guy i bought the car from, also gave me some replica reararches, which i used bits from. Fitment was quite bad, and all the lines seemed to be a bit softer than the original.
A friend of mine owns a nice AE86, which he is rebuilding. He needed some parts, and found a donor. We bought the car together, stripped it, and both used the parts we needed. I got the engine/gearbox and rearaxle out of it. Also used the AE86 frontstruts to create coilovers.
I also bought a TA22 rearaxle before we bought the donor, so i still have that laying around aswell .
So we lifted the engine on a cold november day, and left the rest for a later date.
With the 4age in my possession, i bought some mounts from TechnoToyTuning, and found a set of itbs on ebay .
Also found a good, rustfree driversside door .
I then set on repairing the inner arch on the right side. Someone had already bodged something there, and it didnt look good. So i cut it all out, and put some fresh metal in there.
In my everlasting search for parts, i came across a lower lip on ebay, so i bought it.
As the pockets on the rear where completely vanished, i had to create something of my own. I had been thinking alot about this part, and i didnt know how to tackle it. This is my first attempt, which i have now removed and redone.
It wasnt too bad, but my new plans required something a little bit more like the original.
In the meantime i bought some SSR MKIII's from the motherland, made a big order with T3, and ordered some more stuff on ebay.
Then it was time to put the engine in.
Fridaynight i removed the old 4k, Saturday i cleaned and painted the enginebay, and serviced the engine (new timingbelt, waterpump, sparkplugs, rotor/distributorcap), and on Sunday the engine was in.
Had to make up my own gearboxmount, not the prettiest, but it works.
Someone had already made an attempt at fixing the floor on the drivers side, without succes. They did it without removing the interiortrim obviously, as some of it was melted.
Wasnt too happy about that, or the other side, which was worse.
I then did some cutting on the b-pillar, but go any further than that at the time, as i still had no idea how to fix this.
Because the stock gaugecluster didnt have a tacho, i went on the look for something else. I wanted something that would fit in the stock position, and held as much information as possible. I found this:
And modified the stock cluster to fit it in.
Back then i was looking for a project car. I had a slammed GS300 as a daily, and wanted something a bit smaller and lighter to have a little fun with.
Then this starlet came up for sale. This is one of the pics from the previous owner.
So i decided to go check it out, condition was said to be quite rusty.
When i arrived in the barn the car was located, it had a lot of rust, but nothing i couldnt handle, or so i thought. I didnt really take a good look at the underside, cause there wasnt any space to do so. The rear windows where out, the rearfenders cut up, B-pillars had big gaping holes in them. But somehow i liked the car, so we agreed upon a price, and i picked it up a week later. Also, seeing a lot of the projects on this forum, and the bad condition the cars started in, gave me a lot of confidence that i could fix the car.
I decided to drive the car home, as it was only 40km's or so. I had to be a bit carefull on the brakes, as they where quite rusted from standing still. I filled her up with some gas, and off i went. The car didnt actually drive that bad, bar the leaking masterbrake cilinder :-?. About 30km's in i had a flat reartire on the highway, pulled over, called roadassistance, and had the tire replaced at a local tireshop, as i had no spare .
Eventually i got the car to the garage i was working at the time. My employers had allowed me to work on the car during the weekends.
Locked the place up, and started on it about 2 weeks later.
So i began looking over the car, looking at what had been done, and what had to be done. It wasnt long till i figured out that everything that was done to it, was done quite poorly. So i decided to just cut everything out, and redo those parts. On with the pics! Note that i wont post all the pics, cause there are simply too many :p.
So, that was i started with. I grinded away some filler around the fuelcap.
As you can see, not pretty.
So, i started cutting away some of the rot around the rearend.
And then redoing the bit around the fuelcap.
In the meantime, i'd already ordered and received several parts. I bought some fenderflares and a trd replica wing. I then started on repairing the right rear arch. The guy i bought the car from, also gave me some replica reararches, which i used bits from. Fitment was quite bad, and all the lines seemed to be a bit softer than the original.
A friend of mine owns a nice AE86, which he is rebuilding. He needed some parts, and found a donor. We bought the car together, stripped it, and both used the parts we needed. I got the engine/gearbox and rearaxle out of it. Also used the AE86 frontstruts to create coilovers.
I also bought a TA22 rearaxle before we bought the donor, so i still have that laying around aswell .
So we lifted the engine on a cold november day, and left the rest for a later date.
With the 4age in my possession, i bought some mounts from TechnoToyTuning, and found a set of itbs on ebay .
Also found a good, rustfree driversside door .
I then set on repairing the inner arch on the right side. Someone had already bodged something there, and it didnt look good. So i cut it all out, and put some fresh metal in there.
In my everlasting search for parts, i came across a lower lip on ebay, so i bought it.
As the pockets on the rear where completely vanished, i had to create something of my own. I had been thinking alot about this part, and i didnt know how to tackle it. This is my first attempt, which i have now removed and redone.
It wasnt too bad, but my new plans required something a little bit more like the original.
In the meantime i bought some SSR MKIII's from the motherland, made a big order with T3, and ordered some more stuff on ebay.
Then it was time to put the engine in.
Fridaynight i removed the old 4k, Saturday i cleaned and painted the enginebay, and serviced the engine (new timingbelt, waterpump, sparkplugs, rotor/distributorcap), and on Sunday the engine was in.
Had to make up my own gearboxmount, not the prettiest, but it works.
Someone had already made an attempt at fixing the floor on the drivers side, without succes. They did it without removing the interiortrim obviously, as some of it was melted.
Wasnt too happy about that, or the other side, which was worse.
I then did some cutting on the b-pillar, but go any further than that at the time, as i still had no idea how to fix this.
Because the stock gaugecluster didnt have a tacho, i went on the look for something else. I wanted something that would fit in the stock position, and held as much information as possible. I found this:
And modified the stock cluster to fit it in.
Last edited by Motax on Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:41 am; edited 1 time in total
Motax- 125cc single cylinder
- Number of posts : 10
Age : 36
Location : Almere, the Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-08-11
Re: 1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
So with almost all the welding done, there where 2 spots that still needed to be done. These are the ones i've been dreading since the day i bought the car. In the end it wasnt too bad. Sometimes you just need to start and see where you end.
So right after easter, i took a week off work to work on the starlet. I basicly started bolting back the front suspension, subframe, and put the engine back in. Painted some of the parts black before mounting them
One of my mates had the enginelift in his garage, only problem was, that he got off work at 6, and it was still 3 o clock. Also, there was an S15 in the way, so i wasnt even sure if we could get the damn thing out of his garage.
So i decided to get the engine in without the lift. I lowered the front of the car on the ground, and slowly lifted the engine into place.
Next day i modified the AE86 rearaxle to fit.
Still using the ae86 springseats, as the KP springseats where rotten, and i had also gotten ae86 springs, which are slightly larger than the KP springs.
With that all bolted together, i just had to put one of the SSR's on
And after that, its back on its wheels for the first time in 5 months .
I still dont have a fueltank, but i took some measurements of the one i will buy, and made a frame using that.
Strong enough i hear you ask?
Then i did some bodyfiller/sanding/primer etc.
And last thursday i put the windows back in.
So right after easter, i took a week off work to work on the starlet. I basicly started bolting back the front suspension, subframe, and put the engine back in. Painted some of the parts black before mounting them
One of my mates had the enginelift in his garage, only problem was, that he got off work at 6, and it was still 3 o clock. Also, there was an S15 in the way, so i wasnt even sure if we could get the damn thing out of his garage.
So i decided to get the engine in without the lift. I lowered the front of the car on the ground, and slowly lifted the engine into place.
Next day i modified the AE86 rearaxle to fit.
Still using the ae86 springseats, as the KP springseats where rotten, and i had also gotten ae86 springs, which are slightly larger than the KP springs.
With that all bolted together, i just had to put one of the SSR's on
And after that, its back on its wheels for the first time in 5 months .
I still dont have a fueltank, but i took some measurements of the one i will buy, and made a frame using that.
Strong enough i hear you ask?
Then i did some bodyfiller/sanding/primer etc.
And last thursday i put the windows back in.
Motax- 125cc single cylinder
- Number of posts : 10
Age : 36
Location : Almere, the Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-08-11
Re: 1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
So basicly after that, i picked the car up. Rented a transporter, drove the car home. I really hadn't touched the car since i put it on the trailer, and it has been sitting for about 2 months, due to various reasons (mainly bad weather, and lack of time).
Last week i've done some small things. I've been busy shortening, and thinning out the engine loom. As i'll be using MegaSquirt, a lot of oem sensors will not be used.
As you can see, not a whole lot of wires left .
I've ordered some supplies to finish the loom, and i was hoping to get them in the mail today, but i'll have to wait a few more days . Yesterday i've also converted one of my bathrooms into a spraying booth so i could spray some of the smaller interior bits.
Thats it for now, i'll have to wait till the end of the month to order some new stuff, but the good thing is that i've started working on the car again .
Last week i've done some small things. I've been busy shortening, and thinning out the engine loom. As i'll be using MegaSquirt, a lot of oem sensors will not be used.
As you can see, not a whole lot of wires left .
I've ordered some supplies to finish the loom, and i was hoping to get them in the mail today, but i'll have to wait a few more days . Yesterday i've also converted one of my bathrooms into a spraying booth so i could spray some of the smaller interior bits.
Thats it for now, i'll have to wait till the end of the month to order some new stuff, but the good thing is that i've started working on the car again .
Motax- 125cc single cylinder
- Number of posts : 10
Age : 36
Location : Almere, the Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-08-11
Re: 1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
This is AWESOME!!! do you have any idea when this will be painted?
john- Admin
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Location : Baythorne end Nr Haverhill
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Re: 1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
Paint is absolutely dead last on my list. It's been too long since i've driven something fun, so i'll probably get some seat time before it's sent of to paint.
First things first tho. I need to get it running first. And for that i need the intake finished, exhaust, fuelsystem, ecu, and all the wiring done.
I have to find a solution for the exhaust manifold. I bought one on ebay, but its not going to fit due to the changes i've made in the firewall for the pedalbox. So either modify a turbomanifold, or buy one of those kits they use on kitcars, to create it myself.
First things first tho. I need to get it running first. And for that i need the intake finished, exhaust, fuelsystem, ecu, and all the wiring done.
I have to find a solution for the exhaust manifold. I bought one on ebay, but its not going to fit due to the changes i've made in the firewall for the pedalbox. So either modify a turbomanifold, or buy one of those kits they use on kitcars, to create it myself.
Motax- 125cc single cylinder
- Number of posts : 10
Age : 36
Location : Almere, the Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-08-11
Re: 1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
super skills i think mine would have been nearly done if i had some of them skills im poo at fab work lol
are you going to drift it ?
are you going to drift it ?
Re: 1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
Not sure yet. The driftscene in holland doesnt have much life in it, so it probably won't see a lot of sideways action.
The build started as a restoration, but slowly evolved into something resembling a racecar, with intentions to use it on the nordschleife.
I just want to have some fun with the car, on the street, on the track. I've only driven it for 40-50km's, in stock form, so i'm realy curious to see what it's capable of.
The build started as a restoration, but slowly evolved into something resembling a racecar, with intentions to use it on the nordschleife.
I just want to have some fun with the car, on the street, on the track. I've only driven it for 40-50km's, in stock form, so i'm realy curious to see what it's capable of.
Motax- 125cc single cylinder
- Number of posts : 10
Age : 36
Location : Almere, the Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-08-11
Re: 1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
Wow! so much good work going into this!
finch- 1998cc 4 cylinder DOHC
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Re: 1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
I think you should make a manifold
john- Admin
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Re: 1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
Yeh, thats also probably the cheapest option. But instead of buying a kit, i can also just chut up the ebay manifold i already have. I've already chopped a bit off to see if it would fit. I think i'll be breaking my head on that next weekend.
In the mean time, my wiring supplies have finally arrived.
So i got something to do now .
In the mean time, my wiring supplies have finally arrived.
So i got something to do now .
Motax- 125cc single cylinder
- Number of posts : 10
Age : 36
Location : Almere, the Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-08-11
Re: 1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
awesome project there mate alot of work has gone into that i will keep an eye out for updates
Si- 1600cc 4 cylinder DOHC VVT
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Re: 1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
So today i've started on the engine loom. It was hot as hell, it took forever, i'm not 100% satisfied with it, but it will have to do. It went from 40 to 20 wires. TPS plug still needs to be hooked up, but other than that, the engine side is pretty much done. Almost all the wiring is new, except for the last few cm's leading to the plug, as i dont have the tools to take that stuff apart.
Motax- 125cc single cylinder
- Number of posts : 10
Age : 36
Location : Almere, the Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-08-11
Re: 1983 KP61 Starlet (lots of pics)
Looks awesome mate, nice little loom you have made yourself
john- Admin
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